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Loving the Characters that Fandoms Hate

frost-felon said: In light of recent events, I have this to say: defending a character is not just about showing the reasons as to why the hate for a character is not very justified; it's also about acknowledging the entire character--the flaws. You can't write a good defense if you're not talking about the flaws as well, like a stupid decision they made or traits they have that can harm others/themselves. No one should go to this blog with the intent to praise a character, but to show their full, true selves.

From anonymous: I really liked some of the characters you defended, but the reasons you used for defending them kind of turned me away from them… I wish I’d never been exposed to the reasoning you use to defend characters I really admired.

In Defense of Desmond Miles

Desmond Miles from Assassin’s Creed.

Let’s begin.

Self-centered.

I’m actually not sure where this is coming from. Is it because he’s sarcastic? Do people think (spoiler) he sacrificed himself because of a hero-complex or something? He was kidnapped, first of all, then spent the entire first game at Abstergo’s beck and call, knowing they were probably going to kill him when they had what they wanted. Even after he was rescued in the second game, he was still back and forth for the Assassins…Animus, training, Animus. He started having hallucinations over a cause he only agreed to fight for because Lucy saved his life. Remember that sequence in game 2 where you get to be Altair for a little bit, chasing Mary? This hallucination started in the middle of a hallway, and Desmond later woke up in bed…he passed it all off as “weird dreams” because he didn’t want the others to worry. Then he got right back in the Animus, and kept working. What happened in the middle of all that? Was he just standing in the hallway, spaced out until someone found him? Did he…sleep-walk back to his bed? Did anybody notice that something was going on with him? He’s doing all of this work for you, people, show a little concern.

Ungrateful.

You remember that he was kidnapped, right? What is he supposed to be grateful for? That time that Lucy saved him so he could get back in the Animus again? Or maybe the time his father, along with Shaun and Rebecca, plopped him in the Animus after he passed out (third game) instead of making sure he was okay, because “they didn’t want to risk severing the connection”? Or maybe the time his father punched him in the face because he complained that he was “tired of being a goddamn pawn”? Are we expecting him to be grateful that…what, he knows the sun’s going to blow up? That the almighty People That Came Before chose him to send their message to? What?

Whiny.

He. Was. KIDNAPPED. Look, to this and all of the above: put yourself in his shoes. He’s been thrust into something he didn’t want a part of and suffered a lot for it. As mentioned several times, he was kidnapped, he suffered hallucinations, insults, had his life threatened, his sanity; he had the entire world on his shoulders and in the end, chose to save humanity by, again, sacrificing himself. If he complains a little before that, I think we can give him that. Given all he’s going through, it’s a wonder he didn’t throw full-blown tantrums more often than just…”Why don’t you get in the Animus for a change?”

 Scapegoat for the hugely subjective modern segments.

Nope, sorry. You can’t call him a scapegoat if you’ve already accused him of being self-centered, whiny and ungrateful. It doesn’t work that way. Next.

Resembles Adam Sandler.

…this is not a good reason to hate a character. These last two complaints were utterly useless.

Anonymous said: I know this person who tends to see black or white, in other words a character is either all good or all bad, even those that went through character development. He focuses too much on their mistakes & bad decisions and ignore the fact that they redeemed themselves in the end. I try to explain to him that EVERYONE has done some dumb shit that we learned from, & I know this person has as well. I left him speechless after I said that. It feels good when you win an argument.

Anonymous said: I really don't want to tell you how to run your blog, because it's yours, and it's great the way it is, but perhaps it should be more selective? A lot of the characters featured lately aren't really controversial, (like Levi) so the defenses are basically just against their flaws/negative traits, which good, well-rounded characters should have anyway, and don't need to be defended.

Yeah, I’ve been trying to be more selective lately. It’s just kind of hard sometimes since I’m limited in my current/past fandoms along with the fact that some fandoms are smaller than others.

Defending Connie Springer

 

I’m on a roll you guys.  I’m going to defend everyone that’s on here! But seriously, let’s get this going.

Character: Connie Springer

Fandom: Attack on Titan/ Shingeki no Kyojin

Has contributed nothing to the story

*groans angrily* Even if you’ve only seen the anime, its still no excuse. Ok, so in the anime, Connie is top ten of his group. Moving up a few episodes (well more than s few but whateves) Connie helps protect Jean when his gear gets busted. He also aids in facing off against the female titan at the end of the anime. Now moving onto the manga. If you can’t tell what that means, I’m sayin “AHOY SPOILER AHEAD” So when Connie first sees the titan that looks like his mom, he is one of the first to show reason for distrust in Reiner. Even if it’s unwittingly so, it ends up being important to the story. It’s been a while since I read this part of the manga (and I ain’t about to try an reread that ish right now), but I do remember Connie being a very central and important part of the story. This was seen in the time  they were in that castle. It was also seen when they were all in that cluster fuck of titans when they were trying to get Eren back. Annnnd he’s important as a part of Levi’s new squad sooo.. hm.

is dumb as a rock

Yes, so dumb that out of a fuck ton of soldiers, he was still able to make it to the top ten. Yes, so much dumb. But no, let’s be real, he’s no Armin, but he’s not dumb. In all honesty, he hasn’t done anything that screams stupidity. He’s an extrovert and has a positive personality. I wasn’t aware that these traits equated to stupidity. Anyway, he may not be book smart, per se, but he does have an understanding for people. When Armin freaked out, rightfully so, over the loss of Eren he was able to try and help him out. He reacted strongly when Ymir taunted him because he knew that there was no need for those actions. So… nah guys.

saved a would-be traitor

*more angry noises* He didn’t know! And the guy was his damn friend! Ofcourse he saved him! Like, duh!

easily overshadowed by the rest of the cast in terms of personality

He actually has a pretty exuberant personality. Yeah he might be overshadowed by the main trio… but that’s a “no duh” situation there.

filler character (there to just round out the roster).

I’m going to have to call bull shit. Like, no. I can’t even get further into this one, cause this argument legit is stupid. The majority of “filler character” are fucking dead so… no.

Anonymous said: (Mobile right now so sorry if I missed a FAQ or such.) Has Damara Megido been done or such? I'm not very familiar w/ how this all works, sorry!

Yeah, she’s been done.

Defending Sasha Braus

                     

Just… no stop that. I can’t even with this fandom and their really basic interpretation of these characters, I just can’t!

Character: Attack on Titan/ Shingeki no Kyojin

Fandom: Sasha Braus

Bad comedic relief

On the real, that is such a bull shit “reason”. Like, no. For one, why does everyone get so pissy about characters that are labeled (even if it is incorrectly so) as a comic relief character. Like, why is it such a bad thing to be funny? Now that aside, you can’t label Sasha as this. There is so much more to her. Hell, even if you didn’t read the manga, the anime showed that there is more to her! Like, damn! She had the ONE moment that was strictly for comic relief and everyone rolls with it. How about the fact that despite being scared pissless she joined the survey corps. Hmm… not very comedic. She’s a positive thinker, and sometimes (well to some of you fans) it can come off as “comedic relief”. But of you took the time to actually look at her character, you’d know there is so much more there!

only there as “the potato girl”

Omg… just please stop that. Ok, I’m going to list all the reasons why that is wrong. And don’t worry, I’ll give a warning if it is a spoiler.

1.)    Made it to the top 10

2.)    Is literally only brought up one other time in the manga and anime and both times was Jean picking on her and nothing to do with her character.

3.)    SPOILER Took down a titan with a fucking ax!

4.)    Tried to comfort her fellow soldiers after the severe loss they all faced after the appearance of the female titan.

5.)    SPOILER Has enough medical knowlwdge to patch up Levi

Those are the ones the stood out to me the most, but I’m sure there are plenty more that reasons that prove that Sasha is more than the “potato girl”.

too wimpy/scared

Refer to the things I just said. She faced these problems and yes she was scared. Being brave isn’t about not being scared, it’s about being able to face your fears. So, girl bye

wasn’t able to defend herself or warn others about Titans

She goofed up. Yeah, she messed up and dropped the signal thingy. But let’s be real, it was her first damn mission! It’s like… your first time doing anything, you mess up.

Defending Levi

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Character: Levi

Fandom: Shingeki no Kyojin/ Attack on Titan

Really guys? Come on! Let’s be on the real right now. Levi is a pretty interesting character. I mean, damn! Ya’ll are just gonna hate all of the characters in this show. Like, Levi makes seven. I just can’t with you guys… Anyway, I’m fully caught up with the manga, so I will pull some examples from that, but I will give a warning. So no worries to those of you who aren’t caught up.

A Gary-Stu

So for those of you who aren’t aware, a “Gary- stu” is the male equivalent to a “mary- sue”. Both of these things are complete and utter bullshit reasons to dislike a character. Honestly, it’s second only to shipping reasons. So, I’m going to give the definition to the term “Gary- stu” step by step and prove why you’re wrong for labeling Levi as this J

A male character who is “perfect” to a fault

Ok… he is in no way shape or form perfect… in canon. Now I will admit, the fandom has turned Levi into a big fuckin’ deal. The fandom has turned Levi into the epitome of all that is anime perfection. However, Ishiyama makes it perfectly clear that Levi is far from perfect. I’ll get into the physical later  because that’s another factor in being a “gary- stu”. However, personality wise, Levi is NOT perfect.

1.)Levi has a potty mouth.

That’s not perfect… it’s kinda funny, but being unintentionally humorous doesn’t equate to “omfg such perfect!” Like, no.

2.) Said mouth, makes Levi difficult to understand

It’s been shown frequently that Levi has trouble getting what he means across to others. Example one, he had trouble letting Eren know “Yes, I trust you, I’m not worried about you going berserk. You can also trust me.” Instead, it comes out as “ You’re a fucking weirdo, but bfd, right?” That’s just who Levi is. And that is not perfect you guys, c’mon!

He is usually attractive, mistunderstood, agnsty, and often has some sort of tragic past.

Ok… ok, so this one is a tad bit close to Levi, but no dice. Sorry guys. So on the attractive part… I mean, the fandom think he’s hot as fuck, but… He’s a hella short angry looking munchkin. No shade, ya’ll no shade. But, those aren’t the qualities of like… Fabio or some shit like that. Misunderstood… kinda. The way he comes off can be misconstrued. But it’s not in the same sense of, “No one understands me! Call the ‘waah’,balance!” Angsty? No, not really. He’s actually just kind of complacent… in an angry way, I guess. Like, he has an upsetting past, but he doesn’t let him control his character. So…

He usually winds up romantically involved with one or more of the author’s favorite characters

Levi legit just does not give a fuck about relationships so uhm… no.

saves the day, upstages all of the real characters

Yes… he does save the day once. At the cost of his leg, thus “benching” him. He’s not indestructible and he knows it. There also plenty of amazing characters that Levi acknowledges as capable. He even shows a level of respect for Mikasa. So, girl bye.

beat Eren in the courtroom

I’m gonna be real, that made me pretty uncomfortable once it originally happened. I would agree with you guys but… I actually finished the fucking episode so… Like honestly you guys, there was a reason behind it. Levi’s actions took the heat off of Eren calling out the people in the courtroom. It also made it easier for Erwin to “get custody” of Eren and to get him away from the military police. And he also showed regret. 

heartless, sadistic, abusive especially towards the younger characters

Ugggh!! UUUggggh!! Just no. Stop.

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I’m gonna go by this one by one.

Heartless

Nope. He hates unnecessary loss of life. He was visibly upset by the loss of his squad. He didn’t condemn that one guy who brought the titans toward them as they were leaving. He fucking gave this same guy Petra’s pendant and says it’s the other guy who died to make him feel better. SPOILERS He comforted Connie when he was upset over the loss of his mom. He was visibly shaken by the idea that titans were humans.  He was enraged by the loss of Hanji’s squad. And he tried to comfort Armin. Yeah, real fucking heartless!

Sadistic

No. He doesn’t like to do things that cause trouble for humans if it doesn’t have a meaning in the long run.

Abusive, especially toward the kiddies

No. He treats everyone the same. He blunt, kinda off putting and rude but not fucking abusive. This whole argument is all based on extremely poor characterization.

[SPOILER] made his new squad out of Eren’s remaining friends to manipulate him.[/SPOILER]

How do you even come to this fucking conclusion. Like, I’ll be honest, even if Levi was a manipulative little shit, I don’t think he’s the type to think that far ahead into it. But, seeing as how Levi is not like that at all, that’s bull. He felt that they were capable enough to even be compared to his old squad. He has a level of trust for these kids, which speaks volumes to his character. Not everything Levi does revolve around Eren, you guys.

Honestly, a lot of this shit was poor characterization. I just can’t even…

In Defense of Lucy Bennett

I personally did not enjoy season nine of Scrubs, but that was because it did not fit in with the rest of the eight seasons and I felt that season eight had been the perfect ending and a wonderful sendoff for the characters that I loved. It was not because of Lucy.

Lucy is not J.D. How can she be? She’s a different person with different flaws. She does share characteristics with him - both Lucy and J.D. care immensely about their patients and their friends. There have been episodes where we’ve seen both characters put in a lot of extra time for their patients. But the reality is that Lucy is a med student. One of the best parts of the first season of Scrubs was seeing J.D. come to terms with what it means to be a doctor - that he’ll see pain and death and suffering. Lucy hasn’t had to see that yet. I think what a lot of people dislike about season nine of Scrubs is what I did - the fact that it wasn’t as heartwarming or heartbreaking as the other seasons. It makes sense, because of the fact that med students aren’t doctors yet and they work on cadavers, not people. Understanding the logic behind it doesn’t make it any easier to love the season. But the flaws in it are not Lucy’s fault.

Not funny: Lucy may not be funny in the same way as J.D. is - fantasies, crazy antics - but she is funny enough in her own way. She snarks and does silly things and has humourous exchanges with other characters.

Not likable/relatable: Lucy has a hard time cutting open a cadaver because she knew him when he was still alive. She makes jokes and she makes mistakes and she struggles to balance her life. She cares deeply about other people. She works hard because she feels the need to be the best at everything she does. She seems pretty relatable to me.

Weak/whiny/annoying: I don’t consider her any of these. She’s smart and hardworking. She needed to learn how to balance her life and prioritize. Because she needs help learning how to do that doesn’t make her weak or whiny.

Goes back to Cole and thinks she can change him: Cole may be somewhat of an idiot. But she cares about him and he cares about her. She doesn’t go back to him because she thinks she can change him. She goes to him because she cares about him as he is and believes that he’ll grow up eventually.

Blamed for the show’s cancellation: With or without Lucy, the show couldn’t have gone on much longer. Lucy gets blamed as she’s the narrator. The truth is, the story wasn’t as strong as in previous seasons.

In Defense of Maribelle

I’ve seen Maribelle get a lot of hate at times in the Fire Emblem Awakening, and a lot of it stems from her ‘snooty’ attitude.

Yes, she does have that sort of attitude, especially when you first meet her. You have to remember though, she is the daughter of the Duke of Themis, and as such she was raised in a high-class family. She has been brought up in such a way that anything not prim and proper in appearance and mannerisms is likely to off-put her at least a bit. You can see in her supports though that she grows to accept other’s quirks as she gets to know them better.

She however does not show contempt for lower class people. Throughout the game and her various supports, it’s shown many times that she wants to learn and understand the differences between the upper and lower classes so that she can better help people. The majority of her endings even have her becoming a magistrate who demands equal justice for all classes.

She may come off as cold in beginning supports, but keep doing them and you’ll see she become much warmer to the person she is supporting with.

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Also, I want to bring this up because I’m a little surprised about this not being a reason because I’ve seen people complain about it. I’ll try to be brief about it though.

 People complaining about her being possessive of Lissa at times

Like I said, I’ve seen people not like Maribelle because of this before too. She is very protective of Lissa, even going so far as to keep close watch on potential suitors, which you find out about in her B Support with Chrom.

The thing about this is that Maribelle was was treated rather harshly by other people of nobility when she was younger, and she didn’t really have any friends. Lissa was really her first real friend, and in return, Maribelle is willing to do whatever she can to protect Lissa from harm.

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Basically, Maribelle comes off as snooty in the beginning, yes. If you take the time to go through her supports though, you’ll find that she grows warm those she gets close with and that she does become accepting of how they are. She doesn’t understand how the lower class is difference and learns, and in the end(for most endings anyways) she fights for equal rights for upper and lower class.

Maribelle is also fiercely protective of Lissa, but only because she wants the best for her most treasured friend. She doesn’t want anything bad to happen to Lissa, so she’s willing to do whatever it takes to keep Lissa safe and happy.

  • Character: Gen 6 rivals (Shauna, Tierno, and Trevor) 
  • Fandom: Pokemon
  • Reason for Being Hated: Boring, bland, annoying, not developed, aren’t as great and interesting compared to the rivals of previous generations.
  • Character: Tommy Lasalle
  • Fandom: (Syfy’s) Defiance
  • Reason for Being Hated: Boring, flat, terrible actor, useless, stupid, irrelevant, his romance with Irisa (people who don’t like the Torisa ship or want Irisa with someone else tend to dislike him), now in Season 2, is seen as a “jerk” [SPOILER] for getting snarky and rude with Nolan, getting pissed at Amanda for handing his job as Lawkeeper off to Nolan, moving on from Irisa and dating Berlin. [/SPOILER]
  • Character: Beowulf
  • Fandom: Skullgirls
  • Reason for Being Hated: Being too masculine, “ruining” the concept of Skullgirls being a fighter with an all-female roster (despite the fact Big Band exists). (Defense from submitter: I think Beowulf is actually a somewhat nice addition to the cast, but from what I’ve seen he really rustles the jimmies of a lot of the fans.)
  • Character: Serena
  • Fandom: Pokemon (the x and y series)
  • Reason for Being Hated: People seem to think that she is too whiny and doesn’t have any goals so far.
  • Character: Trahearne
  • Fandom: Guild Wars 2
  • Reason for Being Hated: Bland, ‘special snowflake,’ gets respect without earning it (though it’s implied he’s a very distinguished scholar), becomes leader of the Pact without any argument, annoying accent.