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Fuck Yeah, Controversial Characters!

Loving the Characters that Fandoms Hate

  • Character: Tohma
  • Fandom: Misao
  • Reason for Being Hated: Acts brave but is a coward, “dated” Otome while dating Misao, played Misao and Otome, [SPOILER] let Otome die [/SPOILER], flirted with Aki, Misao, Otome, and Library.

New Content Ideas

I’ve been wanting to do something new with this blog for a while. Occasionally I’ll reblog fandom posts that I come across and I’m always open to people submitting their own fandom-related posts.

So, besides character posts and defenses, what else do you want to see on here?

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Anonymous said: Was my post about Gao Mikado erased because is it not enough? If so I understand...

I found it! Tumblr savior was hiding it.

Characters in the Inbox

As usual, here’s a list of characters that are currently in my inbox. Recently submitted characters are towards the bottom:

  • Rosalyn Rosenfield, American Hustle
  • Tohma, Misao
  • Kaidou, Revolutionary Girl Utena
  • Max, Total Drama
  • Jiang Wei, Dynasty Warriors
  • Misako, Ninjago
  • Robin, Teen Titans Go!
  • Akio Ohtori (movie), Revolutionary Girl Utena
  • False Assassin, Fate/Stay Night
  • Lisa Mishima, Zankyou no Terror
  • Gabe Duncan, Good Luck Charlie
  • Eri, Yuka, and Ayumi (Kagome’s friends), Inuyasha
  • Groose, The Legend of Zelda
  • Cindy Vortex, Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius
  • Jaquimo the Swallow, Thumbelina
  • Eska, The Legend of Korra
  • Brat, PowerPuff Girls
  • Ned Flanders, The Simpsons
  • Peter Parker, The Amazing Spider Man movies
  • Yaone, Saiyuki
  • Yuya Sakaki, Yugioh Arc-V
  • Cosmo, The Fairly OddParents
  • Isabela, Dragon Age 2
  • Foxy, Five Nights at Freddy’s
  • Sticks the Badger, Sonic Boom/Sonic the Hedgehog
  • Annie Walker, Bridesmaids
  • The Residents of Springfield, The Simpsons
  • Marvin, Martin Mystery
  • Chuami, Final Fantasy X-Will
  • Dijonay Jones, Zoey Howzer, and LaCienega Boulevardez; The Proud Family
  • Giru, Dragonball GT
  • Natsume Takashi, Natsume Yuujinchou
  • Yun-Seong, Soul Calibur
  • Reyna, Heroes of Olympus
  • Gin, Ginga Nagareboshi Gin
  • Tomoki/Tommy Himi, Digimon
  • Guy Graham, Doug
  • Spike, Peanuts
  • Oscar, Shark Tale

undeademily:

I absolutely love that when a fandom sees a white man do something, it’s funny and it’s witty and it’s fine, but the second a woman of color does that same thing, it’s Holy Shit What a B*tch time.

Sherlock, in the BBC series, insults and belittles Sally. Every time we see them interact. He acts as though she is incompetent at her job and publicly demonizes her for her sex life, which is hers alone and none of his damn business. But apparently, that’s just fine. 

But when Sally, who has worked hard to get where she is and Sherlock strikes that skill down like it’s nothing, isn’t allowed to retaliate? Yes, what she calls him is cruel, but really? Nothing compared to what Sherlock has been doing to her. We see in The Sign of Three that she’s capable, that she is competent, that she knows what the fuck she’s doing. And Sherlock acts like she isn’t. All the damn time.

Sherlock’s cruel to Sally right back and I frankly don’t give a damn who started it, I give a damn who the fandom demonizes for it.

Sally.

Another example is in Elementary:

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The reason Joan did this was because Sherlock had JUST DONE IT.

In a childish fit, Sherlock has broken some of their shared property, and Joan knows that sort of hissy fit throwing won’t solve a damn thing.

Joan has been a sober companion for some time now, and understands how people work. She understands how to make people understand that destructive behaviors are fruitless and that they aren’t productive, and that is EXACTLY what she’s just done.

She’s shown Sherlock that, though it might make a good stress relief to smash shit, it won’t solve anything. It will never solve anything. So she does it and proves that it’s pointless to do so.

And yet I saw so many people watch this scene and say “This is when I just really started disliking Joan.”

The woman of color does something the white guy LITERALLY just fucking did. And somehow she’s the one in the wrong.

Fandom members can swear up and down they’re not racist or sexist or misogynist, but if you condemn the woman of color for the same action you condone when the white man does it?

Chances are you’re a racist misogynist and need to step the fuck off.

(via thingsfandomshavetaughtme)

I’m honestly surprised that Tenma got into the list, and I think I can speak for a majority of the fandom that we are pretty surprised. So let’s get to it.
JarringIf by any means anyone is referring to the fact that Tenma is the new main character for the SEQUEL series, then yeah, I guess it’s pretty jarring….not. Unlike most sequels, you actually get a hint of Tenma at the end of the first series (Inazuma Eleven) at the last episode, and it’s not even shadowed.
TL:DR, Tenma is not jarring by any means. If you are an old fan, you have a nice, 30 seconds, fully voiced narration introduction for him, and if you started off in the Inazuma Fandom from GO, he is main character from start.
Source : Inazuma Eleven episode 127
More annoying than EndouHow do you classify annoyance?
A quiet person finds a cheerful, bubbly person annoying. A serious person finds a happy, fun-loving character annoying. A conservative person finds a reckless person annoying. Basically, anything you find that go against your beliefs are annoying to a degree or so, but that’s not a reason to hate a character.
By that reasoning, it means you find every other character that is happy, bubbly, optimistic, slightly naive to be annoying, and unfortunately, there are people, outside anime, in other media, real people, that fits those characteristics, either one, some or all. You might need some help.
CluelessNot only that’s part of his character design, this argument is almost as bad as the mary sue argument. If a character doesn’t know anything/unable to solve a plot specific point, he’s called clueless, but if he’s able to do so, he’s labeled a mary sue. That’s pretty sad.
Let’s assume you got as far as Galaxy, and the clueless stands for when Tenma didn’t realize [spoiler]Tsurugi was replaced with an alien[/spoiler]. Please, do put yourself in his shoes for a bit. He’s 14, by oldest guess, and is captain to a team that’s suppose to win a tournament vs aliens (which, most of the time has some advantage over humans) and if they lose even a little, they lose entire planet earth.
He’s 14, remember that.
That’s a hell lot of responsibility right there. When people are 14, realistically, we are juggling hard enough with friends, social and school. He had to save an entire planet. Granted, Inazuma isn’t a particularly realistic anime, but one cannot argue that it brings a touch of humanism into Tenma’s character, no?
Always happyI question this statement.
Tenma is shown very early in GO that he takes things important to him very seriously. Any fan would remember his early self-questioning episode in Go (episode 9 or so) when Kurama accused him of destroying their soccer in the first place. After that, Tenma have shown several instances of not being happy all the time. Chrono Stone as a season is a good demonstration, especially King Arthur’s arc. Even in Galaxy, episodes such as Tenma questioning himself about why [spoiler] he didn’t realize Tsurugi is a fake[/spoiler] showed that you know, he’s not smiling 24/7.
He is just a casually optimistic character, and can you blame him? He’ still a growing boy after all, who, by right, is playing something he love with all his heart.
If you hate a character for being optimistic, or if you hate anyone for being optimistic, like my point above, you might need some help.
Too cuteShinsuke is cute.
Aoi is cute.
Fuyuka is adorable still.
Pikachu is cute.
Yoshi is cute.
Koromon is pretty cute too.
Pretty sure being cute is not a legit reason to hate someone.
Thinks everything will work outI think this pretty much ties in with the ‘happy’ point. It’s a personality trait, and one that is tested several times throughout the show as well. You know, much like the near last episode of GO (source: ep Go 43-44) where he broke down, thinking he brought his team to ruins with this very line of thinking, only to be backed up by Shindou. 
Treats soccer as a personBy this line of reasoning, you will hate every person that treats an object as a living person/friend. That also means you hate every single kid out there who treats their toys as a friend, every techie/geek who treat their gadgets as a friend, every writer/artist/etc who treats their tools/artwork/work as their friend, and if you are the kind of person that treats animals as a ‘thing’, then you officially expanded your hate to people who treat animals as their friend.
Remember, Tenma starts the series as a 13 years old kid, and by Galaxy he’s 14, at best. If you are expecting a much more mature, angsty personality as main character, I don’t think you are in the right fandom, or watching the right anime at all.
Not a better captain than ShindouYou’re right, he’s not.
At the beginning, that’s it, but that’s the whole point of the series, isn’t it? A main character is suppose to grow and develop with the series. If Tenma had started off to be a perfect captain at the beginning of the series, he would be a Gary Stu.
One of the whole point of GO in general is to develop Tenma’s character, and this is shown all the way from GO (when he’s promoted to captain and has his fails) to Chrono Stone (as he learns what it means to be a good captain, what kind of captain he is) to Galaxy (As captain, while providing for everyone, to not lose himself in the process).
Besides, even Shindou isn’t the greatest captain. If your quip is how Tenma forced the team to ruins in the Holy Road tournament’s last match, please remember Shindou did the same to Raimon’s team at the beginning of GO, against Tsurugi’s team. (source: GO ep 2)
Both boys aren’t perfect. Tenma is not a better captain than Shindou. Shindou is not a better captain than Tenma.
They are both different kinds.
And they are both still learning.
ForcedI’m actually not sure what is meant by this one. Forced as in…forced into the series? He was introduced rather gradually, as pointed above. His backstory has a lot of sense in it, he didn’t appear out of thin air. His motive is perfectly legit, especially when linked to his age.
Forced, as in, forced into captainship? Not so, it took him well over 30 episodes to be promoted into captainship, and even then, all the way in Chrono Stone, he wanted to return back the captain band because he felt like he wasn’t good enough. Forced as main character? Not so, since he never wanted the spotlight, evident in episode 36, when he’s utterly horrified that his actions caused the destructions of other school. He, after all, only has a simple wish to play soccer.
Other than that, I don’t see anything too forced about him, especially if you watch every episode in a casual, but following the sequence manner. He didn’t pop out of nowhere, after all.
So, in conclusion, most of the hating is unjustified.
Now let’s get back to playing soccer.

I’m honestly surprised that Tenma got into the list, and I think I can speak for a majority of the fandom that we are pretty surprised. So let’s get to it.

Jarring
If by any means anyone is referring to the fact that Tenma is the new main character for the SEQUEL series, then yeah, I guess it’s pretty jarring….not. Unlike most sequels, you actually get a hint of Tenma at the end of the first series (Inazuma Eleven) at the last episode, and it’s not even shadowed.

TL:DR, Tenma is not jarring by any means. If you are an old fan, you have a nice, 30 seconds, fully voiced narration introduction for him, and if you started off in the Inazuma Fandom from GO, he is main character from start.

Source : Inazuma Eleven episode 127

More annoying than Endou
How do you classify annoyance?

A quiet person finds a cheerful, bubbly person annoying. A serious person finds a happy, fun-loving character annoying. A conservative person finds a reckless person annoying. Basically, anything you find that go against your beliefs are annoying to a degree or so, but that’s not a reason to hate a character.

By that reasoning, it means you find every other character that is happy, bubbly, optimistic, slightly naive to be annoying, and unfortunately, there are people, outside anime, in other media, real people, that fits those characteristics, either one, some or all. You might need some help.

Clueless
Not only that’s part of his character design, this argument is almost as bad as the mary sue argument. If a character doesn’t know anything/unable to solve a plot specific point, he’s called clueless, but if he’s able to do so, he’s labeled a mary sue. That’s pretty sad.

Let’s assume you got as far as Galaxy, and the clueless stands for when Tenma didn’t realize [spoiler]Tsurugi was replaced with an alien[/spoiler]. Please, do put yourself in his shoes for a bit. He’s 14, by oldest guess, and is captain to a team that’s suppose to win a tournament vs aliens (which, most of the time has some advantage over humans) and if they lose even a little, they lose entire planet earth.

He’s 14, remember that.

That’s a hell lot of responsibility right there. When people are 14, realistically, we are juggling hard enough with friends, social and school. He had to save an entire planet. Granted, Inazuma isn’t a particularly realistic anime, but one cannot argue that it brings a touch of humanism into Tenma’s character, no?

Always happy
I question this statement.

Tenma is shown very early in GO that he takes things important to him very seriously. Any fan would remember his early self-questioning episode in Go (episode 9 or so) when Kurama accused him of destroying their soccer in the first place. After that, Tenma have shown several instances of not being happy all the time. Chrono Stone as a season is a good demonstration, especially King Arthur’s arc. Even in Galaxy, episodes such as Tenma questioning himself about why [spoiler] he didn’t realize Tsurugi is a fake[/spoiler] showed that you know, he’s not smiling 24/7.

He is just a casually optimistic character, and can you blame him? He’ still a growing boy after all, who, by right, is playing something he love with all his heart.

If you hate a character for being optimistic, or if you hate anyone for being optimistic, like my point above, you might need some help.

Too cute
Shinsuke is cute.

Aoi is cute.

Fuyuka is adorable still.

Pikachu is cute.

Yoshi is cute.

Koromon is pretty cute too.

Pretty sure being cute is not a legit reason to hate someone.

Thinks everything will work out
I think this pretty much ties in with the ‘happy’ point. It’s a personality trait, and one that is tested several times throughout the show as well. You know, much like the near last episode of GO (source: ep Go 43-44) where he broke down, thinking he brought his team to ruins with this very line of thinking, only to be backed up by Shindou. 

Treats soccer as a person
By this line of reasoning, you will hate every person that treats an object as a living person/friend. That also means you hate every single kid out there who treats their toys as a friend, every techie/geek who treat their gadgets as a friend, every writer/artist/etc who treats their tools/artwork/work as their friend, and if you are the kind of person that treats animals as a ‘thing’, then you officially expanded your hate to people who treat animals as their friend.

Remember, Tenma starts the series as a 13 years old kid, and by Galaxy he’s 14, at best. If you are expecting a much more mature, angsty personality as main character, I don’t think you are in the right fandom, or watching the right anime at all.

Not a better captain than Shindou
You’re right, he’s not.

At the beginning, that’s it, but that’s the whole point of the series, isn’t it? A main character is suppose to grow and develop with the series. If Tenma had started off to be a perfect captain at the beginning of the series, he would be a Gary Stu.

One of the whole point of GO in general is to develop Tenma’s character, and this is shown all the way from GO (when he’s promoted to captain and has his fails) to Chrono Stone (as he learns what it means to be a good captain, what kind of captain he is) to Galaxy (As captain, while providing for everyone, to not lose himself in the process).

Besides, even Shindou isn’t the greatest captain. If your quip is how Tenma forced the team to ruins in the Holy Road tournament’s last match, please remember Shindou did the same to Raimon’s team at the beginning of GO, against Tsurugi’s team. (source: GO ep 2)

Both boys aren’t perfect. Tenma is not a better captain than Shindou. Shindou is not a better captain than Tenma.

They are both different kinds.

And they are both still learning.

Forced
I’m actually not sure what is meant by this one. Forced as in…forced into the series? He was introduced rather gradually, as pointed above. His backstory has a lot of sense in it, he didn’t appear out of thin air. His motive is perfectly legit, especially when linked to his age.

Forced, as in, forced into captainship? Not so, it took him well over 30 episodes to be promoted into captainship, and even then, all the way in Chrono Stone, he wanted to return back the captain band because he felt like he wasn’t good enough. Forced as main character? Not so, since he never wanted the spotlight, evident in episode 36, when he’s utterly horrified that his actions caused the destructions of other school. He, after all, only has a simple wish to play soccer.

Other than that, I don’t see anything too forced about him, especially if you watch every episode in a casual, but following the sequence manner. He didn’t pop out of nowhere, after all.

So, in conclusion, most of the hating is unjustified.

Now let’s get back to playing soccer.

A Defense For Sugar… Never thought I’d say that

I get that Sugar’s the main antagonist and that normally you’re supposed to hate her so it was no shock she got on this list. So without further ado, let’s get started with this defense.

Is a Honey Boo-Boo knockoff,

This was basically what her personality was based off of. I would prefer the word parody or inspiration rather then the word “knockoff” but whatever. She did talk in a southern accent and she is a pageant queen, but that’s basically just her personality, which is basically based off on Honey Boo-Boo, just like how Ella was based off on Snow White.

is a bitch towards Ella,

This I can’t defend too much. Sugar thought that Ella was actually trying to be nice in order to gain her trust, which she wanted none of. Even though Ella really didn’t want to hurt Sugar, she just plain out didn’t trust her, which could is what most people would do in these situations. Also, Sugar made obvious notions that she didn’t give two shits about Ella, but Ella really did want their friendship to work out, even if there was none to begin with.

gross and fat.

Okay yeah Sugar is disguising, that I definitely can’t say anything good about. But her being fat isn’t much of a reason to hate her. Hating someone on their wait is just plain out rude and unnecessary, just because she ain’t got dem curves doesn’t mean she can’t be liked. She is easily dislike able in many aspects, but being hated on because their fat is a pretty low blow. Sugar’s all about that bass, so it doesn’t matter.

Prepare to get swept up - A Defense of Bloody Marie from Skullgirls

- Notoriously difficult even on the easiest settings

I don’t even want to start on the stupidity of this statement.

Skullgirls is a hard game. And meant to be so, because it was designed for the fighting game enthusiast. The primary features of Skullgirls are a no-infinite combo system and customisable assists in addition to a team ratio system and perhaps the most balanced set of characters to come out of a fighting game. It’s for the person who counts frames, for the person who has an arcade style stick, for the person who bought Divekick and for the person who giggles over “Salty Cupcakes” because lord knows there has been some mad salt in this post.

If you don’t get any of that, chances are you are not the target market of Skullgirls. If you’ve come to Skullgirls expecting something a cakewalk, then you’re in for a surprise. Marie is a gatekeeper to the ending of whichever character you’ve chosen, and her multi-stage boss fight is a test of stamina and skill. Skullgirls is a game that makes you work, and if it didn’t, it would be a disservice to the people who had bought it.

In Endless Beta mode, you have Marie 300%. A Marie fought at heavily inflated health and attack. This wouldn’t have been kept in the beta if the fans didn’t want it.

- one of the three required for True Story Mode but didn’t win the DLC voting, fans assumed that becoming playable would make her massively broken on principle

Part of the mystique of a final boss is that you don’t get to play them, or it’s a highly disappointing experience - just look at Seth from Street Fighter IV or Galactus from Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3. Marie would be massively nerfed or completely retooled for her for her to fit with the rest of the roster, and that would take the fun of why you’d want to play the Skullgirl. There really isn’t any hate here per se.

- poor characterization
This is a cheap shot as cheap shots get. Marie “suffers” from poor characterisation because she is the big bad in this game and part of the mystique of the big bad is that their story is not laid bare to you in its entirety. Her intentions are laid bare (we see that she is motivated by vengeance) and yet it is completely shrouded in mystery. Each character unlocks a different side of Marie in their quest to obtain the Skull Heart. She is not human, perhaps the least so of all the characters and we are not meant to be entirely sympathetic until the very last moment. If anything, Skullgirls features some great writing because we know absolutely nothing about Marie and yet we know everything behind her motivations.

- only liked by the Japanese because she’s a “goth loli meido.”
The statement here is that Japanese fans like her because she’s a “goth loli meido.” So we’re almost expecting a preference for her in fan depictions. pixiv, while not entirely indicative of Japanese fandom’s preferences, will often indicate who the more popular characters are. So let’s go through the current available cast of Skullgirls sans Eliza. (searches have had the Skullgirls/スカルガールズ tag added to it to filter results)

Filia - 319 searches
Squiggly - 211 Pieces
Big Band - 10 Pieces
Double - 154 Pieces
Valentine - 223 Pieces
Painwheel - 147 Pieces
Miss Fortune - 142 Pieces
Parasoul - 100 pieces
Peacock - 388 pieces
Cerabella - 191 pieces
Marie - 150 pieces

As we can see, Filia, Peacock and Valentine are the top three in terms of pieces of art on pixiv, placing her on the middle end of the spectrum in terms of popularity. So a girl with thunder thighs, mad acme loli and evil sexy nurse are more popular than Marie, at least on pixiv. 

The Skull Heart runs wild! ~ A defense for Bloody Marie.

Because woah, I was pretty surprised to see this dearie on here. Let’s get right to it.

Notoriously difficult even on the easiest settings

Okay, let’s see here. Marie is supposed to be really strong and really scary: the Skullgirl is a one-woman army that can singlehandedly wreck cities and wipe out military groups. There’s a reason that there’s a bunch of organizations dedicated to creating weapons to deal with Skullgirls: they’re really dangerous, and left unchecked, can probably wipe out entire continents with relative ease. And then all the people they kill become their slaves, and the army keeps growing — they just become more and more problematic to the human race as time goes on. Scary stuff.

With all that in mind, the boss battle against her is a 1v1. You’ve got one person against this undead abomination who can summon countless undead slaves and onslaughts of animated bones, as well as just all this raw magical power, to smash your character’s face in. It’s supposed to be an “against all odds” sort of thing, even if you’re playing a character that was, storyline-wise, designed to beat Skullgirls. Of course you’re going to have trouble.

Once you learn all of her attacks, it’s not super hard. You just need to be able to look for the signs (moving shadows, her voice clips corresponding with her attacks, etc) and to learn to defend against them. Yes, her Level 3 phase is really ridiculous, but let’s keep in mind that it’s more or less the Skull Heart’s power going rampant and doing everything it can to destroy you. Makes sense with the storyline.

If you can’t beat her, keep practicing and figuring her out. Or just play on the lowest difficulty— I only really have trouble with Marie on Hard or higher.

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"Know your place!" - A Defense for Marie from Skullgirls/Skullgirls Encore

  • Notoriously difficult even on the easiest settings

Yes, this is true, HOWEVER. She is usually difficult if you’re a first timer. When you’re a first timer, yes she is difficult to beat. But when you play the boss fight at least twice it becomes a bit clear of what you have to do.

  • One of the three required for True Story Mode but didn’t win the DLC voting

Oh my god are you really hating her JUST because she didn’t win a vote?? The next votes are whenever they are here and you’re able to vote/donate so you can play her! Don’t hate a character for something they didn’t actually do.

  •  Fans assumed that becoming playable would make her massively broken on principle

Yes, but this is an assumption. Not an actual fact. Thus a poor reason to dislike her

  • Poor characterization

This is just an opinion. In my opinion her characterization is the best I’ve seen in ages

  • Only liked by the Japanese because she’s a “goth loli meido

Everyone has the reasons to like and hate a character. If some Japanese people like her because shes a goth loli meido then so be it!

  • Character: Rana
  • Fandom: Vocaloid
  • Reason for Being Hated: Being tuned to sound cutesy in her demos even though the company said she’d have a tomboy-ish voice, sounds like Miku/Rin, looks like IA, being another generic female Vocaloid, forgettable, being released in a magazine exclusive to only Japanese audiences.
  • Character: Madison Montgomery
  • Fandom: American Horror Story (Coven)
  • Reason for Being Hated: Apart from the character’s own actions, she was controversial because people complained that she didn’t serve the story and was basically there for Emma Roberts to play herself.
  • Character: Kamille Bidan
  • Fandom: Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
  • Reason for Being Hated: He’s one of the best protagonist of UC Gundam series. In early episodes of Zeta Gundam, most people doesnt like him for being childish, whiny bitch (whines a lot than Amuro), jerkass (especially to Fa), obnoxious, stupid, and possibly being an hypocrite.
  • Character: Iggy
  • Fandom: Hey Arnold
  • Reason for Being Hated: Unforgiving jerk, holds a grudge even after months of humiliation, forces Arnold to do his chores, has a big ego & cares only about his reputation, forces Arnold to wear bunny pajamas & face public humiliation, even the show’s creator hated Iggy so much that he never showed up in an episode ever again.

Anonymous said: Because Kamille was being hated at first but they like them later. Hating at him at first does count as controversial?

He was hated/controversial at one point in time, so I suppose he still counts.