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Fuck Yeah, Controversial Characters!

Loving the Characters that Fandoms Hate

Anonymous said: Hi ! I was wondering if you could do Romano from hetalia ? I'm sorry if I'm completely messing up this whole request character thing or if I'm even supposed to request or not 😰... I'm new here but I adore your blog ... I'm so sincerely sorry if I screwed this up ..

No problem! He’s already been done :)

Anonymous said: The fact that so many female characters are hating for having big boobs "sluts" and are "only there for fanservice" upsets me. I would hate to be you to see all the submissions like that. XD does it annoy you?

After 2 years of doing this, I’m so used to it that I barely notice anymore!

magevaati said: Something of note about the "Cia's boobs are too big" argument: I don't see anyone hating on Veran(the Oracle of Ages villain) for having a gigantic chest. I mean, her boobs are about the same size as Cia's(proportionally), and I don't see any Veran hate.

How come I had a feeling she was going to be up here? I just knew that somehow, someway, she would appear here.
Character: Cia
Fandom: The Legend of Zelda
Slutty, having big boobs, being too revealing by Zelda standards
I’m putting these all as one because they relate to each other. First off, stop calling every female character who is dressed in revealing clothing a slut. Just because she’s dressed in revealing clothing does NOT make her a slut. Yes, I do agree that, by Zelda standards, she is revealing. But then again, this isn’t exactly your typical “Zelda” game. It’s LoZ crossed over with Dynasty Warriors, so of course, the characters are going to be differently designed. I don’t think the game is even developed BY Nintendo!
And how is having big boobs a reason to hate her? If you didn’t know, Telma had big boobs, and I saw not one complaint. WOMEN IN REAL LIFE have big boobs. So before you complain, take a look around you. (I’m not saying Cia is an accurate representation of how women look in the real world).
Being too out of place
Again, the game isn’t your typical “Zelda” game. It’s a crossover with Dynasty Warriors, so obviously, she’s going to take on a more “Dynasty Warrior” type look with an LoZ twist.
Gets in the way of ZeLink and MidLink, and the romance/jealously subplot involving her is too stupid by Zelda standards.

Do I even warrant this one with an answer? 
Okay, here’s my first problem. MidLink and ZeLink aren’t even OFFICIAL. For the love of Din, what do you not get about that? Yes, in SOME universes, ZeLink is considered canon, but again, this isn’t a canon game. 
As for the subplot, I will admit I had my doubts at first about it, and about Cia, but now that I’ve actually seen her and gotten to know about her some more, she’s grown onto me. I think this could actually be an interesting subplot, as it’s never been done before. Stop making rushed judgments. Who knows, maybe her motives are bigger than just wanting Link for herself.
All in all, you’re all forgetting the fact that this isn’t canon, this is basically a fanfiction video game, and that once again, this is something completely new and even WE don’t know much about it.

How come I had a feeling she was going to be up here? I just knew that somehow, someway, she would appear here.

Character: Cia

Fandom: The Legend of Zelda

Slutty, having big boobs, being too revealing by Zelda standards

I’m putting these all as one because they relate to each other. First off, stop calling every female character who is dressed in revealing clothing a slut. Just because she’s dressed in revealing clothing does NOT make her a slut. Yes, I do agree that, by Zelda standards, she is revealing. But then again, this isn’t exactly your typical “Zelda” game. It’s LoZ crossed over with Dynasty Warriors, so of course, the characters are going to be differently designed. I don’t think the game is even developed BY Nintendo!

And how is having big boobs a reason to hate her? If you didn’t know, Telma had big boobs, and I saw not one complaint. WOMEN IN REAL LIFE have big boobs. So before you complain, take a look around you. (I’m not saying Cia is an accurate representation of how women look in the real world).

Being too out of place

Again, the game isn’t your typical “Zelda” game. It’s a crossover with Dynasty Warriors, so obviously, she’s going to take on a more “Dynasty Warrior” type look with an LoZ twist.

Gets in the way of ZeLink and MidLink, and the romance/jealously subplot involving her is too stupid by Zelda standards.

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Do I even warrant this one with an answer? 

Okay, here’s my first problem. MidLink and ZeLink aren’t even OFFICIAL. For the love of Din, what do you not get about that? Yes, in SOME universes, ZeLink is considered canon, but again, this isn’t a canon game. 

As for the subplot, I will admit I had my doubts at first about it, and about Cia, but now that I’ve actually seen her and gotten to know about her some more, she’s grown onto me. I think this could actually be an interesting subplot, as it’s never been done before. Stop making rushed judgments. Who knows, maybe her motives are bigger than just wanting Link for herself.

All in all, you’re all forgetting the fact that this isn’t canon, this is basically a fanfiction video game, and that once again, this is something completely new and even WE don’t know much about it.

kyuu-kon said: I still don't understand how can people hate Levi. ._.

Anonymous said: i saw that Merrill and Fenris were on this blog, but is Anders too? (All from Dragon Age)

Not that I remember.

Defending Kokonoe

Overpowered - She’s the daughter of two of the Six Heroes who were arguably the strongest characters in the games’ universe. If she was anything but OP I’d be worried. Also you fans voted for her in the popularity poll, you wanted her to be playable, jeez people be careful what you wished for…

Not use Magic in canon ever - Are we really going to be mad that she never used magic? I always figured she was afraid and because she liked science better. I mean her mom was a mage and was killed and LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO PLATINUM. Thing is, she actually does use magic in canon… The extra scenes available on CSIIEx are canon and Kokonoe uses Infinite Gravity in one of those scenes to seal a Black Beast that was created at Sector 7 to stop it from you know…destroying everything and killing everyone. 

Science freak - FREAK? Really? You are going to hate on science? Should I assume creationists, bible thumpers, and republicans are the ones saying this? Science is awesome and she is clearly ridiculously intelligent and puts it to use in the field and has created some badass shit. Did you forget Tager is the way he is now because of her? He’d be rotting in the ground if she didn’t make him a crazy awesome cyborg. You’re just jealous!

Cranky? Cynical? Swears a lot? - Sounds a lot like another character… Oh hi, Ragna. I guess if you aren’t the “main character” you aren’t allowed to be angry ever. Or is this some misogynistic bullshit where a guy who is cynical and swears is “badass” but a girl who does is an “unladylike bitch.” She’s got some pretty good fucking reasons to be cranky and cynical. Pretty much everyone is a douche to her because she’s beastkin, her mom is DEAD, she’s in charge of some pretty crazy and important shit, pretty sure she’s also an observer for Hakumen and has to deal with Rachel’s snooty attitude all the time…. Also, are we really going to be that immature and hate a character for swearing? 

…And nearly every character in the series would destroy the world if desperate enough. Kokonoe just has actual nukes to do it. This is a piss-poor argument…

BONUS DEFENSE SPOILER ALERT! Sure she is a desperate woman who would wanted to defeat Terumi by her own hands and to stop seithr even if it means USING THE CHRONOPHANTASMA (a kind of time-displaced duplicate clone which only last half a year before it dissapears) OF CELICA A. MERCURY AND THE KUSHINADA’S LYNCHPIN AS A CATALYST AND THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE THE WORLD! She is a jerk with a heart of gold, she made Ex Machina: Minerva just for Celica as her bodyguard and amplifier in case she is in danger she also cares for Celica to a little degree…

ladystarch said: have you done sansa stark?

Yes :)

Short defense for YHVH (Shin Megami Tensei)

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A short defense for YHVH, aka “God”, from the Shin Megami Tensei multi-series here.

Well there’s only one reason he’s a controversial character:

His “kill everything that doesn’t 100% atone to me” attitude is seen as offensively slurring Christianity and God himself. I just want to point out that this was obviously not Atlus’s intentions whatsoever.

For starters, let’s look at the multi-series as a whole, and it’s universe: The game are obviously very religion heavy, taking ideas from the bible, Christianity, other religions ect. But none of it is ever really consistent. It’s a huge mess. There’s not one set “bible” of what’s true in the SMT universe and what’s not, apart from the very basics.

The multi-series is basically portraying it’s own fake-religion, by taking real life myths, and stories that are consistent over multiple religions and beliefs, and portraying it in it’s own way. 

People tend to see religions as “a set of stories that religion thinks is true”, but that’s not strictly all there is to it. Religion is far more complex, and stories are spread across different religions, just like how different adaptations of stories are spread around movies and books. The important point is the root of the myths and stories, and where they all stream from; Something a lot of people, may I add, seem to not get. The bible isn’t a set of “THIS HAPPENED, IT’S 100% FACT” stories, and hard-core Christians who take it as such are misinterpreting the point of it. As are, may I also add, the people who seem make fun of the bible for being “inconsistent” ect.

I summarized it a lot in simple terms, so that explanation may not seem to make much sense, but I obviously don’t wanna go too deeply into this kinda thing. The important point is that religion isn’t as simple as people think, and in actual fact, the “God” portrayed in game isn’t in any way supposed to be one set God.

Atlus, obviously, never went outta their way to offend anyone, and I doubt they thought anyone would be wishy-washy enough to actually start hating God just because their game, where things like ALICE FROM ALICE IN WONDERLAND are real may I add, said that God likes to kill people who don’t obey him.

People’s hatred should be aimed at those who GENUINELY make fun of God or religion, because God himself know’s I’ve seen enough Christianity hate and offense jokes on the internet to last a life time. 

Defense of the Choir Boy

Character: Sebastian Vael

Fandom: Dragon Age

Is Religious

That’s not a very good reason to hate someone. Being religious does not automatically make someone a bad person, or someone deserving of hate, and if that’s one of your excuses, especially if it’s your ONLY excuse, you need to do some reevaluating 

Forces His Religion On Others

No he doesn’t. Sebastian doesn’t even believe in preaching to people. In a conversation with Isabela he tells her as much - “preaching seldom works Isabela” and that you should lead by example and not just with words. So, yes, he does bring up the Maker and the Chantry often, but he is a Brother there, it’s a critical part of who he is, but he never forces anyone to convert

I went back over his dialogue with the other characters and the only time he instigates the religious discussion was with Fenris, and then once with Merrill. Other times he’s responding to a question or comment from someone about his faith. I believe the reason he started prompting Fenris was because he genuinely wanted to help him find some happiness, comfort and/or stability and he believed that could happen with the Chantry, because that’s where he found his own peace 

Useless (Varric is a better archer)

This is an opinion, and not a real “fact” to hate someone by. Not every character of one class (in this case rogues) is going to be equal to another, that’s true. If it weren’t, then characters would all be pretty boring in battle and you might as well always stick to just one 

Instead, each character has their faults and benefits; for one, Sebastian’s “Royal Archer” specialization allows for additional critical damage and chance (among other things), while Varric’s seems to lean more towards physical damage and attack speed (also among other things). Some people might prefer Sebastian’s critical over Varric’s physical. I like both of them; they’re both great archers in their own rights

Refuses To Have Sex With Hawke (which apparently makes romancing him pointless)

This is, to be blunt, a very stupid reason to hate him (the MOST stupid really). He’s chosen to remain celibate and that’s HIS choice, if your Hawke really cares for him she’ll respect that choice and love him all the same. Asexual people and those who do choose to be celibate are not to be hated for those reasons in real life, so don’t hate those who make them in a game (one great aspect of games is how they can reflect our own life/world)

Also, I think the celibacy/priest life angle is even better because he finds a way to keep his faith and promise while also showing Hawke just how much he loves her and wants her to always be a part of his life. I think the part in the romance where he asks you to marry him was worth all the wait. He’s actually my favorite romance because of, as he says it, the purity of that love

[SPOILER]gets angry at Anders for blowing up the chantry, threatens to raise an army against Kirkwall if Anders isn’t executed[/SPOILER]

Sebastian had one true home he could always belong to - Kirkwall’s Chantry. You know, the one Anders blew up in a terrorist attack? He was practically exiled from his home in Starkhaven because his parents were disappointed in him and now the only place he could turn to is gone. The woman who had become like a mother to him was dead alongside all his friends and who knows how many other innocents that could have been there

I like Anders, but I couldn’t believe it when he did it. Sebastian has always been at odds with him (he’s probably the one he got along with the least, obviously) and to watch his whole world be destroyed just like that, I can’t even imagine. Sebastian has always been good at controlling his emotions as he tries to find a peace within himself and to always do good and help others. Something this traumatic happening to him? It’s no wonder he becomes so angry and vengeful. He wants justice, and it’s either that Anders takes his punishment or he’ll seek his own form of it. It was a decision made in utter despair, and I can’t really fault him for it, even if I don’t entirely agree with it- he’ll likely be endangering innocents too in his manhunt after all, but I can definitely understand his despair and anger as a result of it

A very late defense for Fi (Skyward Sword)

From anonymous:

(This is a year late, but screw it: I wanna defend Fi, since she gets way too much hate just for being who she’s supposed to be.)

Let me start of by saying this: People NEED to learn that there are different kinds of hate you can have towards a character.

Personally finding the character’s traits annoying, hating the character FOR their traits (because they’re an asshole ect), and hating a character because they’re a bad character, are three different things. 

Yet people constantly cross them over, and create a huge blurred mess of “hate”, that has no definition. THIS ISN’T HOW CHARACTERS WORK. A character isn’t “bad” because they’re an asshole. A character isn’t bad, on a grand scale, because their natural, realistic traits can be found as agitating.

A character is a bad character if they are just BAD. Badly written, badly put together. If the agitation comes from a badly done character.

People don’t seem to get this, like I said. And create a huge mess of hatred, where people cross “bad character” in with “hated character”. 

So, let me make something clear here: I’m defending Fi as a character in the same way that you’d defend a friend who someone is insulting. I’m not sticking up for her in terms of how annoying she is.

Annoying

This is opinion, and what’s annoying can be different to different people. And I’d like to point out that the reasons people give for why she’s annoying are the same ones all the time: She warns you of everything, she constantly talks, she constantly interrupts gameplay with plot ect. For starters, this is all stuff she’s SUPPOSE TO DO. She was sent to aide Link as his helper. Finding it agitating is understandable and hating it in itself is understandable. But hating Fi, in the same way you’d hate on a real life person, for it is just hating on her for doing her job. If you find this annoying, then find IT annoying. Find the fact that this is a thing annoying. Hell, find Fi “annoying” by all means, but hating HER for this, is stupid.  

Second, complaining about the plot interrupting gameplay is stupid, and doesn’t even deserve rebuttel. Zelda games have always had plot as an integral part. 

Boring, no personality

She’s stoic, yes, and her character can be described as flat. But again, this isn’t a problem with Fi herself. In context, it makes every ounce of sense that Fi is boring, has no real personality and has a lack of character.

She’s not a living being; not technically. Unlike Navi, or Tetl or any of the other companions, she wasn’t “born”. She was created by the Goddess Hylia for the ONE AND ONLY purpose of aiding the hero, Link. She’s supposed to be nothing more then an information bank; a computer. That’s what she is; she’s a computer in the shape of a human.

Why people seem to miss this I have no clue (either that or people just do notice but don’t get how to hate characters). Her name is FI, she speaks like a computer (saying things like, “I calculate a 90% probability that…”) and even her voice while shes speaking sounds electronic.

Again, personality hating this: completely fine.

But people need to learn that these are things that Fi herself isn’t responsible for. Because you’re basically hating on a laptop for not having personality. It’s the same thing. Direct your hatred at the fact she was written as this character; NOT THE CHARACTER HERSELF.

Not only this, but…did these people even play to the end of the game? You can’t tell me she has NO personality, if you’ve seen the final scenes. It’s character development. Yes, I admit, it comes abruptly, but that’s besides the point: They show she has built up a personality while travelling with Link for so long. Saying she has no personality is just ignoring that scene.

Stupid

…No. Just NO. This one doesn’t even deserve attention. But for clarity sake: She has integral knowledge of the world and it’s history. She knows stuff others don’t, and she constantly gives information, some of which you wouldn’t have known if she never told you. She’s NOT stupid. 

Never shuts up

Exaggerated. Just like Navi, people exaggerate exactly how much the companion chatters on. Just like how Navi didn’t shout “HEY LISTEN!” in your face every single other second, like Ocarina of Time players seem to tell people, Fi does not interrupt the game every other second to give information. She tells you about the on-going plot, and gives information if things suddenly happen, but she doesn’t pop up after EVERY SINGLE thing to talk about it, like I’ve seen people say.

Once you get into the meet of the gameplay, she only pops up very occasionally, and most of those times it’s to advance the plot. Something that I don’t think is a bad thing.

Gaudy

Well…can’t say I 100% diagree, although this is again based on opinion. I personally like her look. 

Captain Obvious

Yes, she does say things that players can work out on their own, but again, I ask that people look at the context of it.

She was sent, by the Goddess, to make sure Link doesn’t get lost, stuck, or bewildered too much, on his quest. Of course she’s gonna tell him about lots of things, to make sure he doesn’t get stuck. After all, this is an important quest. MORE THEN IMPORTANT, actually It’s a quest that decides the fate of existence. They can’t exactly afford for Link to not understand how to find something, and sitting there scratching his head trying to work it out. Fi’s job, is to make sure Link fulfills his purpose in saving the world. 

If anyone was in that position, then OF COURSE they would aid the hero in any damn way they could. You’d naturally say, if you saw something active “LOOK, THAT ACTIVATED!” or if you entered a new place they’d naturally give information on the place if they had it. And considering it was HER JOB to do that, it makes even more sense that she does.

Not only this, but a lot of moments make sense in context, where the player can see things, but Link can’t. This happens a number of times, where we as players see something activate, but Link is turned away. 

I’ve said this a number of times, but I have to reiterate it to get it to sink in: This is agitating. But hating a character’s traits and having said character in the same way you’d hate any human being, are different things. This isn’t something you hate Fi as Fi for. 

Also, on top of this, kids play these games. They might need Fi’s information. Just because you’re an expert Zelda player, or video gamer in general, doesn’t mean every game you play is supposed to mold itself around your needs.

Gave useless information, completely unnecessary

A lot of her information wasn’t useless at all, and was actually rather helpful. Not only that, but people don’t get that “useless” and “useless to me” are different things. The information was all relevant to the situation, and would be helpful if you actually found yourself in those situations. Just because it wasn’t what you needed, doesn’t make it “completely useless”.

And completely unnecessary? What about her drowsing abilities? 

Round-up

The long and short of it is that Fi’s inclusion in the game is hated on for the wrong reasons. People direct said hatred at Fi herself, rather then her entire character concept, aka, the people who designed her, or the actual agitating things themselves. If you’re gonna hate a character as a person because they’re annoying, hate them because they’re actually annoying in context. The same way you’d find a show-off in real life annoying. Don’t hate on a character because of what they are, if what they are is something that in context wouldn’t be taken as bad or annoying. 

No one can tell me that if they were in Link’s shoes, that’d find Fi’s information, advise and general person annoying. You’d find it informative, useful, and you’d treat her like a useful, emoton-less info-giving robot. 

Short version: Hate the entire concept, not the character themselves.

In Defense of Kog’Maw

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Once more I defend a champion from the League, only this time, I defend one I’ve personal stake in. This is a defense of Kog’Maw, the Mouth of the Abyss.

Ugly- Thing about beauty? It depends on the beholder, for what one person may consider grotesque another may consider radiant. In this case, there are plenty of people, myself included, that find Kog’Maw to be cute and charming, not ugly. Furthermore, let me say this: if you value a character by looks, does that not make you shallow?

No Personality- OK, let me just get one little detail out of the way here: Kog’Maw is implied to be a little BABY! When you were a baby, did YOU have a formed personality? Nope! Odds were, you may have been a bit curious, a bit bratty, but you weren’t YOU just yet! Well, Kog’Maw is exactly that: a baby. He’s a little baby lost in an unknown world, but he’s not yet scared because he’s distracted by all the foods, fights and pretty sights around him! Plus, it’s implied he can sense his father…

Squicky- Because he attacks by vomiting. This is gross, yes. It doesn’t bother EVERYONE equally, but it IS something to consider. A game should let the player have fun, not cause the player to gross out. This is a legit criticism, but again, it does not affect everyone.

Lore is like Cho’Gath’s: I compared the two. The difference is that Kog’Maw’s lore talks about him more, while Cho’Gath’s focuses more on the nature of the void, making good ol’ Cho practically a side character in his own lore. This is something Riot needs to fix, pronto. But, I can see a superficial similarity, so I’ll give them that.

One of the Least Useful ADC’s: Oh! Well, let me count the ways he’s “useless!” Let’s see now, he has a slow, high AS, armor and magic resist shredding, an ultimate that grants sight on the enemy and deals area of effect damage, a potential 710 auto attack range as early as level 9, and attacks that deal bonus magic damage based on the enemy’s health. Let me tell you about Kog’Maw, OK? This little guy is a monster, because he can tear through tanks like they’re nothing. When you face off against Kog’Maw, you can’t do it alone, because he WILL wreck you. A Kog’Maw with a Blade of the Ruined King? A nightmare on the battlefield. Bloodthirster? A beast, because not only is he getting a shield, he’s also healing himself slowly while not only did he chip away your armor and slow you down, he’s doing bonus magic damage according to how much health you’ve got. And that’s, of course, if you can even get near him.

On teamfights, where’s Kog’Maw? Oh, right back there, way behind his team, safe and sound, spitting his ult at your team, dealing damage and granting his team vision! Can you even land a hit on him? Face it, Kog’Maw is one of the most terrifying ADC’s in the game.

Useless Passive if Used Wrong- Let me re-write that and put emphasis on what needs to be emphasized: useless passive if used wrong. In fact, I’ll be lumping ALL his further critiques here, because they all lead to the same point: Kog’Maw’s use depends on the skill of the player. If the player is unskilled, Kog’Maw will not be as useful if he were controlled by someone who knew what they were doing. But that’s ON THE PLAYER! If the player does not have the skill to use Kog’Maw to his fullest potential, that’s the player’s fault, and no one else’s! It is up to the PLAYER to know Kog’s weaknesses and strengths, it is up to the PLAYER to know when to use his techniques and passives, it is up to the PLAYER to determine when and how to use the champ they are bringing to the team! If Kog doesn’t have an escape, it is up to the player to avoid situations where an escape would be a necessity! Save that flash, for example, or pick barrier instead of ignite! Know what he brings to the table, and decide if THAT is what your team needs! But don’t go around blaming the champ just because someone you had the misfortune of playing with lacked the skill needed to bring out Kog’s potential!

Ultimately, whatever Kog’s faults in regards to the game outside of his design, they can and should be attributed to the player’s skill level. If Kog ran out of mana at the three minute mark, it’s because his player didn’t know to not spam his abilities willy nilly. If Kog got caught in a gank, it’s because the player put him in a position where getting ganked was a posibility. Kog may not have an escape, but he DOES have a kit and a playstyle that allows him to stay as far away from danger as possible, minimizing danger from ganks. Kog can hit from afar, deal extra magic damage, and has two AoE damage skills. If he can’t get kills, or CS, or towers, blame it on the player, because the champ’s just fine.

Anonymous said: I just saw your defense of Poof and I agree (love the guy). I also wanted to add a little tibit in regards to his being "overpowered": like you said, they have no control over magic and only that excess youthful energy is being converted to magic, and in addition ALL fairy babies are like that. His dad said he was the last fairy baby born (if I remember correctly) and he was super powerful, turning his own dad into a fly and summoning a dragon that wrecked Fairyworld. He got over it Poof will 2

  • Character: Ezreal
  • Fandom: League of Legends
  • Reason for Being Hated: Looking ‘too much like an anime character’ instead of the usual badass champions, hates Noxians for no explained reasons, is in a ‘relationship’ with Lux, no character flaws, overpowered lore-wise (found an OP artifact that gives him OP magic while still being the best explorer, and holds toe-to-toe with other badasses), is called a Marty Stu for those reasons (also named after Riot staff Ezreal), annoying to fight.
  • Character: Cia
  • Fandom: The Legend of Zelda
  • Reason for Being Hated: Slutty, having big boobs, being too revealing by Zelda standards, being too out of place, gets in the way of ZeLink and MidLink, and the romance/jealously subplot involving her is too stupid by Zelda standards.