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Loving the Characters that Fandoms Hate

Anonymous asked: A better reason to be annoyed about Lavender Brown is the fact that they changed her race. (Not to hate her, but her casting)

  • Character: Karen Plankton
  • Fandom: Spongebob Squarepants
  • Reason for Being Hated: People hate her because she nags too much, is a smartass, has an annoying voice, makes Plankton look like an idiot, is a bitch towards Plankton. One such example is the episode One Coarse Meal where she dismisses his fear of whales and ignores him when he’s trying to commit suicide. (Note from submitter: To be fair, Plankton isn’t always the best spouse either.)

Anonymous asked: I submitted Belle, and if it's okay, I just wanted to explain that I didn't add the thing about Belle supposedly having stockholm syndrome because it doesn't seem to be a thing people /dislike/ about her. It's just something they say a lot. (correct me if I'm wrong >~<)

  • Character: Lavender Brown
  • Fandom: Harry Potter
  • Reason for Being Hated: Annoying, gets in the way of ships (Romione), clingy girlfriend, stupid (compared to Hermione), slut, likes stereotypically feminine things.
  • Character: Belle
  • Fandom: Beauty and the Beast
  • Reason for Being Hated: Stuck up, “special snowflake”, too perfect/has no flaws, saved the beast with her looks alone, could have done better than the ugly monster she married. (Note from submitter: I was absolutely appalled to see some of these while looking through forums. Especially those last two.)

Note from FYCC Mod: I didn’t think that people hated Belle, but I did a google search and was very surprised!

Anonymous asked: Are you posting submissions in order of that submissions list from before?

Yeah, with newer submissions at the bottom of the list.

ask-marley-mays asked: That's IT!!!! First off, Subaru does NOT look like Pinkie Pie!!! His hair is pink, BUT A DULLER PINK. And it's not poofy as Pinkie's. If it were to be exactly like Pinkie Pie's, it would be the EXACT DAMN HAIRCUT. And another thing: SUBARU IS AKAI BECAUSE HE FAKED HIS DEATH AND WITH THE HELP OF YUKIKO SETTED UP A NEW DISGUISE. And I heard he will be removed from the anime for good so that the true self can replace him again. JUST HOW STUPID IS THIS HATEDOM???

  • Character: Subaru Okiya
  • Fandom: Detective Conan
  • Reason for Being Hated: “SUBARU AKAI LURKS LIKE PINKE PIE!1!”, is [SPOILER] Shuichi Akai [/SPOILER], too much of a happy go lucky man, but the biggest reason was that he [SPOILER] captured Conan on the phone and learned he was Shinichi too quickly when he should have been suspicious like the rest of the characters. [/SPOILER]
  • Character: Samantha “Sammi” Gallagher
  • Fandom: Shameless (US)
  • Reason for Being Hated: Late addition to the family, annoying, bratty son, hit on Frank before she knew he’s her father, gives Frank drugs and booze even though he’s dying from liver failure, doesn’t listen to the other Gallagher kids, Frank treats her as his favorite child ignoring the other six that we already know and love.

Anonymous asked: Is the controversial scenes/moments blog dead?

Yeah, I deleted it since I didn’t have the time to run another blog. If someone else wants to remake it and run it, go ahead!

enitari:

  • iF YOU LOVE A CHARACTER IT DOESNT MEAN YOU APPROVE OF THEIR ACTIONS
  • it ODES NOT MEAN YOU APPROVE OF THEIR ACTIONS
  • iF YOU LOVE A CHARACTER IT DOESNT MEAN YOU APPROVE OF THEIR ACTIONS
  • iF YOU LOVE a cHARACTER IT DOESNT MEAN YOU APPROVE OF THEIR ACTIONS
  • iF YOU LOVE A CHARACTER IT DOESNT MEAN YOU APPROVE OF THeir ACTIons
IT DOESnT

(Source: enitari, via kibasniper)

Defense of Molly Weasley!
I could not believe Molly Weasley was on here! She&#8217;s such an amazing, supportive character. Anyways, let&#8217;s get this show on the road:

Shrill, nagging, obnoxious: That&#8217;s what mothers do. She&#8217;s not nagging, she&#8217;s concerned. She had 7 kids to raise (which would, at time, get on anyone&#8217;s nerve - which I&#8217;m guessing is referred to in &#8216;shrill&#8217;), all born in overlapping ages (what I&#8217;m trying to say is that they were all young at the same time for a long while, so she had a lot on her plate), all with different personalities - it&#8217;s normal that she had to be everywhere at once and tell them what to do. When one does something, the other gets in trouble (such as the trouble-making twins) and she has to tell them not to do such-and-such. She&#8217;s educating them.
Bullies her husband and sons: Not at all??? She loves Arthur for all of his quirks (ex; she has not problem with him keeping a shed full of mundane Muggle objects) and is never ashamed of him not having a higher position in the Ministry, she supports what he likes - when he does get a promotion, she&#8217;s very happy and for him. The thing is they have different temperament; Arthur is more laid-back and a bit of a dreamer. Molly is more strong-willed. They complete each other.
We see that in how they raise their children. For example when the boys take the flying car. When Arthur hears the news, he says &#8220;Did you really? How did it go?&#8221; - and frankly, while humorous, is that really the reaction he was supposed to have? Only when Molly chides him does he say &#8220;I mean - that was very wrong indeed boys, very wrong of you!&#8221;.
With 7 children to raise, they need Molly&#8217;s strong hand to guide them. Anyone will less of a character and the house would&#8217;ve been more of a zoo that it would&#8217;ve been, and no one to keep these boys in the ranks. She did not bully them, she educated them; made sure they knew how to act. They did have a lot of freedom and they were incredibly loved (Molly&#8217;s boggart would not be all of her family dead if she did not love them).
Favors Harry over Ron: Molly does not favor Harry over Ron. She offers him support and love he never got from anyone and makes sure he feels loved. While this can make Ron feel as if she does favor Harry sometimes, the difference is that Ron knows he is loved by his family who have loved him during his childhood at the time when he needed that warmth, that feeling of appreciation and security a parent is supposed to give; while Harry did not. Mrs Weasley is loving and a child in need is something she cannot ignore, so she makes sure Harry feels loved. 
Treats Hermione and Fleur badly: No? Mrs Weasley has always loved Hermione. She always liked having her around and only expressed small distrust for Hermione in the 4th book for a small amount of time and returned to loving her when the misunderstanding had been cleared. If, I do not remember which book it was, but I remember that once when Ron was mean to Hermione, Mrs Weasley sent her a big set of Christmas presents and I think she acted a bit disapprovingly at him and/or told him to try and talk to Hermione.
Only in the 6th book does she not like Fleur, then she warms up to her. Molly was protective of Bill, her eldest, and seemed to have a hard time letting a woman come in his life - especially one she did not know (she wanted him to go with Tonks, whom she liked). She seems not to like Fleur because she thought of her to be self-centered and only concerned by beauty (that she liked Bill only because he was handsome)&#160;; but once she realized that was not the case when he was attacked by Greyback and that Fleur truly liked Bill. They also both have strong personality - in a way they are similar (they like to take things in their own hands and to be in charge), which might be what made them clash.
Too lazy to get a job and support her family: Molly was part of the Order of Phoenix in the First Wizarding War - she had to quit because she got pregnant (Bill was born just at the start of the Wizarding war, in 1970). 
She spent years raising her children, which is a job in itself, educating them and being a loving mother to them - Isn&#8217;t that the definition of support? Perhaps not financial support, but all the other kinds of it. She&#8217;s the anchor, the foundation, the one who supports everyone.
She had a job. Being a mother, being a housewife. That&#8217;s exhausting. She had to control the kids, while maintaining the house (cleaning, washing the kids clothes, sewing, preparing meals for 9 people), worry about financial issues (ensure all her kids had enough to eat, try to get them nice things once in a while). 
She knows they do not have enough money and that they cannot get everything everyone else has, but she still tries (ex; when they were young, Fred and George got toy broomsticks). She  makes sure they know that they are loved - which is better than any material possession (ex; while Ron was envious that Harry had lots of money, Harry could not have cared less and was in return, enviosu that Ron had a loving family) - and they love her in return.They know and appreciate what she did for them (the twins tell her so in the 6th book, at Christmas when they give her her present).
Acts like Harry’s mother when she isn’t: And he loves it. In the 4th book, Mrs Weasley hugs him in the infirmary after his ordeal and it is said &#8220;He had no memory of ever being hugged like this, as though by a mother&#8221; (p.620). In the 7th, when Mrs Weasley gives him her brother&#8217;s watch for his coming of age, he hugs her tight and &#8220;[&#8230;] tries to put a lot of unsaid things into the hug [&#8230;]&#8221; (p.97), to appreciate his gratitude for all she does for him.
Pushed her daughter at Harry so they could get their hands on his money: Huh??? Those are unfounded and ludicrous accusations.
Mrs Weasley never cared about his money, or their own financial problems (sure she wished they would have more money, so they wouldn&#8217;t have to worry); she was never ashamed of their situation. She only wished better for her children (ex; she was worried about the twins&#8217; career choice until she saw that they could live comfortably out of it).
Mrs Weasley never pushed Ginny at Harry&#160;; Ginny fell in love with Harry when she first met him, before they even knew who Harry was. And even after she never pressured Ginny into anything. 
Murder of Bellatrix was a total ass-pull since Molly is just a housewife who shouldn’t have been able to perform a spell like that: Well that&#8217;s sexist and misogynist; it implies that you are lower, that you are worthless if you&#8217;re a housewife. Being a housewife does not make a woman less (than a man, of a woman, of a badass). 
Molly was in the Order of Phoenix, she&#8217;s a skilled witch.  But even more, Molly is a mother. She would do anything to protect her children. She had the adrenaline of the fight pumping through her veins, and the despair of the death of one of her children - she would not let another fall that day.

Defense of Molly Weasley!

I could not believe Molly Weasley was on here! She’s such an amazing, supportive character. Anyways, let’s get this show on the road:

Shrill, nagging, obnoxious: That’s what mothers do. She’s not nagging, she’s concerned. She had 7 kids to raise (which would, at time, get on anyone’s nerve - which I’m guessing is referred to in ‘shrill’), all born in overlapping ages (what I’m trying to say is that they were all young at the same time for a long while, so she had a lot on her plate), all with different personalities - it’s normal that she had to be everywhere at once and tell them what to do. When one does something, the other gets in trouble (such as the trouble-making twins) and she has to tell them not to do such-and-such. She’s educating them.

Bullies her husband and sons: Not at all??? She loves Arthur for all of his quirks (ex; she has not problem with him keeping a shed full of mundane Muggle objects) and is never ashamed of him not having a higher position in the Ministry, she supports what he likes - when he does get a promotion, she’s very happy and for him. The thing is they have different temperament; Arthur is more laid-back and a bit of a dreamer. Molly is more strong-willed. They complete each other.

We see that in how they raise their children. For example when the boys take the flying car. When Arthur hears the news, he says “Did you really? How did it go?” - and frankly, while humorous, is that really the reaction he was supposed to have? Only when Molly chides him does he say “I mean - that was very wrong indeed boys, very wrong of you!”.

With 7 children to raise, they need Molly’s strong hand to guide them. Anyone will less of a character and the house would’ve been more of a zoo that it would’ve been, and no one to keep these boys in the ranks. She did not bully them, she educated them; made sure they knew how to act. They did have a lot of freedom and they were incredibly loved (Molly’s boggart would not be all of her family dead if she did not love them).

Favors Harry over Ron: Molly does not favor Harry over Ron. She offers him support and love he never got from anyone and makes sure he feels loved. While this can make Ron feel as if she does favor Harry sometimes, the difference is that Ron knows he is loved by his family who have loved him during his childhood at the time when he needed that warmth, that feeling of appreciation and security a parent is supposed to give; while Harry did not. Mrs Weasley is loving and a child in need is something she cannot ignore, so she makes sure Harry feels loved. 

Treats Hermione and Fleur badly: No? Mrs Weasley has always loved Hermione. She always liked having her around and only expressed small distrust for Hermione in the 4th book for a small amount of time and returned to loving her when the misunderstanding had been cleared. If, I do not remember which book it was, but I remember that once when Ron was mean to Hermione, Mrs Weasley sent her a big set of Christmas presents and I think she acted a bit disapprovingly at him and/or told him to try and talk to Hermione.

Only in the 6th book does she not like Fleur, then she warms up to her. Molly was protective of Bill, her eldest, and seemed to have a hard time letting a woman come in his life - especially one she did not know (she wanted him to go with Tonks, whom she liked). She seems not to like Fleur because she thought of her to be self-centered and only concerned by beauty (that she liked Bill only because he was handsome) ; but once she realized that was not the case when he was attacked by Greyback and that Fleur truly liked Bill. They also both have strong personality - in a way they are similar (they like to take things in their own hands and to be in charge), which might be what made them clash.

Too lazy to get a job and support her family: Molly was part of the Order of Phoenix in the First Wizarding War - she had to quit because she got pregnant (Bill was born just at the start of the Wizarding war, in 1970).

She spent years raising her children, which is a job in itself, educating them and being a loving mother to them - Isn’t that the definition of support? Perhaps not financial support, but all the other kinds of it. She’s the anchor, the foundation, the one who supports everyone.

She had a job. Being a mother, being a housewife. That’s exhausting. She had to control the kids, while maintaining the house (cleaning, washing the kids clothes, sewing, preparing meals for 9 people), worry about financial issues (ensure all her kids had enough to eat, try to get them nice things once in a while). 

She knows they do not have enough money and that they cannot get everything everyone else has, but she still tries (ex; when they were young, Fred and George got toy broomsticks). She  makes sure they know that they are loved - which is better than any material possession (ex; while Ron was envious that Harry had lots of money, Harry could not have cared less and was in return, enviosu that Ron had a loving family) - and they love her in return.They know and appreciate what she did for them (the twins tell her so in the 6th book, at Christmas when they give her her present).

Acts like Harry’s mother when she isn’t: And he loves it. In the 4th book, Mrs Weasley hugs him in the infirmary after his ordeal and it is said “He had no memory of ever being hugged like this, as though by a mother” (p.620). In the 7th, when Mrs Weasley gives him her brother’s watch for his coming of age, he hugs her tight and “[…] tries to put a lot of unsaid things into the hug […]” (p.97), to appreciate his gratitude for all she does for him.

Pushed her daughter at Harry so they could get their hands on his money: Huh??? Those are unfounded and ludicrous accusations.

Mrs Weasley never cared about his money, or their own financial problems (sure she wished they would have more money, so they wouldn’t have to worry); she was never ashamed of their situation. She only wished better for her children (ex; she was worried about the twins’ career choice until she saw that they could live comfortably out of it).

Mrs Weasley never pushed Ginny at Harry ; Ginny fell in love with Harry when she first met him, before they even knew who Harry was. And even after she never pressured Ginny into anything.

Murder of Bellatrix was a total ass-pull since Molly is just a housewife who shouldn’t have been able to perform a spell like that: Well that’s sexist and misogynist; it implies that you are lower, that you are worthless if you’re a housewife. Being a housewife does not make a woman less (than a man, of a woman, of a badass). 

Molly was in the Order of Phoenix, she’s a skilled witch.  But even more, Molly is a mother. She would do anything to protect her children. She had the adrenaline of the fight pumping through her veins, and the despair of the death of one of her children - she would not let another fall that day.

Defense of Ginny Weasley!
(I know the submission is a year old, but Ifeel it&#8217;s still relevant)

Lack of character development: Ginny has had a constant character development, growing up from a young girl to a young woman. A notable example is how she got over her shyness (the way she was handling her crush) in front of Harry; when she was 12, she would freeze in front of him to the point where she couldn&#8217;t even talk.
Then, during the course of her adolescence, she heeded Hermione&#8217;s advice and learned to not make a big deal of things &amp; grow more relaxed in front of him to the point where they could start to have conversations which lead Harry to find out he really liked her - He had never seen her as anything other than a younger sister before they really started talking; something that wasn&#8217;t possible before she learned to reel in her feelings.
Ginny also always persevered to get where she was. For example, when she was young she used to break into their broomstick shed and fly on each of her brother&#8217;s broomsticks when they told her she couldn&#8217;t play Quidditch with them. She&#8217;s strong willed.

“Mary-Sue”: What for? (I&#8217;ll go with the reasons I&#8217;ve most heard of)
Being a strong witch? The whole Weasley family is full of strong witches and wizards - Bill is a spell-breaker, a job which requires him to know many counter-spells and be prepared for anything. Fred and George are both really strong wizards - they make their own spells, potions and inventions, a skill which is said to be very dangerous as well as difficult; or Fred having enough control over his blooming magical powers to transfigure Ron&#8217;s teddy-bear into a spider at age 5.
Its unfair for only Ginny to be berated for being &#8220;overpowered&#8221; when other members of the family have equally strong magical powers.
Besides, it is only normal that Ginny, coming from a pure-blood family with a long line of magical power, would be a strong witch. I assume the genes carried over and got stronger by generations.

Getting the boys (and the hero)? Ginny, like everyone in the world does, has a lot of loveable characteristics. She got more confidant, a trait people are attracted to. She&#8217;s got the qualities of a leader (once again at trait people generally admire). Once she started being herself, people liked her - I find that inspiring.
It&#8217;s common for people to get dates - I don&#8217;t see how it makes her a Mary Sue.
It also turned out she had the kind of personality that Harry liked. I&#8217;m sure he also liked that Ginny did not act any differently around him, or didn&#8217;t make him feel out of place - she didn&#8217;t look at him as if he was the Chosen, but simply Harry Potter.

Other &#8220;Mary Sue&#8221; characteristics (ex; popularity)? All the Weasleys were generally well appreciated at their school. Lets talk about the boys&#8217; recognition and popularity at school: Bill, Charlie, Percy and Ron were all Prefects.  Charlie was the captain of the Gryffindor Quidditch team - and since Quidditch is very important at the school, and the Gryffindors well liked, we can assume he was very appreciated during his school years. Fred and George are both very popular amongst the students (Ron says in the 1st book that &#8220;Fred and George mess around a lot, but they still get really good marks and everyone thinks they&#8217;re really funny&#8221;) for their pranks and uplifting personality.
Once again, if you want to &#8220;Mary Sue&#8221;, its unfair to lets the boys off the hook and only look at Ginny. Besides everyone has good qualities, it&#8217;s not so surprising.

Triggering Harry’s chest monster: She&#8217;s indirectly responsible for that, yes, since she is the one who Harry was feeling jealousy over. But how is that her fault? She didn&#8217;t tell him to feel jealous over her.

Defense of Ginny Weasley!

(I know the submission is a year old, but Ifeel it’s still relevant)

Lack of character development: Ginny has had a constant character development, growing up from a young girl to a young woman. A notable example is how she got over her shyness (the way she was handling her crush) in front of Harry; when she was 12, she would freeze in front of him to the point where she couldn’t even talk.

Then, during the course of her adolescence, she heeded Hermione’s advice and learned to not make a big deal of things & grow more relaxed in front of him to the point where they could start to have conversations which lead Harry to find out he really liked her - He had never seen her as anything other than a younger sister before they really started talking; something that wasn’t possible before she learned to reel in her feelings.

Ginny also always persevered to get where she was. For example, when she was young she used to break into their broomstick shed and fly on each of her brother’s broomsticks when they told her she couldn’t play Quidditch with them. She’s strong willed.

“Mary-Sue”: What for? (I’ll go with the reasons I’ve most heard of)

Being a strong witch? The whole Weasley family is full of strong witches and wizards - Bill is a spell-breaker, a job which requires him to know many counter-spells and be prepared for anything. Fred and George are both really strong wizards - they make their own spells, potions and inventions, a skill which is said to be very dangerous as well as difficult; or Fred having enough control over his blooming magical powers to transfigure Ron’s teddy-bear into a spider at age 5.

Its unfair for only Ginny to be berated for being “overpowered” when other members of the family have equally strong magical powers.

Besides, it is only normal that Ginny, coming from a pure-blood family with a long line of magical power, would be a strong witch. I assume the genes carried over and got stronger by generations.

Getting the boys (and the hero)? Ginny, like everyone in the world does, has a lot of loveable characteristics. She got more confidant, a trait people are attracted to. She’s got the qualities of a leader (once again at trait people generally admire). Once she started being herself, people liked her - I find that inspiring.

It’s common for people to get dates - I don’t see how it makes her a Mary Sue.

It also turned out she had the kind of personality that Harry liked. I’m sure he also liked that Ginny did not act any differently around him, or didn’t make him feel out of place - she didn’t look at him as if he was the Chosen, but simply Harry Potter.

Other “Mary Sue” characteristics (ex; popularity)? All the Weasleys were generally well appreciated at their school. Lets talk about the boys’ recognition and popularity at school: Bill, Charlie, Percy and Ron were all Prefects.  Charlie was the captain of the Gryffindor Quidditch team - and since Quidditch is very important at the school, and the Gryffindors well liked, we can assume he was very appreciated during his school years. Fred and George are both very popular amongst the students (Ron says in the 1st book that “Fred and George mess around a lot, but they still get really good marks and everyone thinks they’re really funny”) for their pranks and uplifting personality.

Once again, if you want to “Mary Sue”, its unfair to lets the boys off the hook and only look at Ginny. Besides everyone has good qualities, it’s not so surprising.

Triggering Harry’s chest monster: She’s indirectly responsible for that, yes, since she is the one who Harry was feeling jealousy over. But how is that her fault? She didn’t tell him to feel jealous over her.

Defending Yu Narukami/Souji Seta (P4)

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Alright, with P4 being my favorite game in the series, I’d like to defend it’s protagonist. I thought he’d end up on this blog solely for reasons based off the anime, but it looks like I was wrong.

boring

Let’s break this down into two sections, shall we? First off, we have the game of Persona 4, in which you are the protagonist Yu Narukami. He’s not given much to him, like a blank new chalkboard. Your actions determine the character. Next off, we have the anime. Now, let’s keep in mind that with the anime, they had to give this character, well, a personality in general since he doesn’t have one in the game. They could’ve gone a very easy route by making him the strong and silent type, which sounds pretty boring if you ask me. Instead, they did a pretty good job of giving him a unique personality by making him more laid-back, he jokes around a lot, and it was actually pretty interesting. Not boring at all.

bland design

I’m not even going to bother touching this one because it’s an opinion. Hating a character for your opinion is ridiculous.

"perfect in every way", Gary Stu

Again, two sections: game and anime. In the game, as already stated, you are Yu Narukami. Your reactions determine what goes your way in the game. You can make people dislike you, you can get bad endings, etc. Not everything goes your way. Besides, even if you want perfect, you gotta earn it through increasing your stats. Nothing just comes to you. Now, to the anime. Yu Narukami is far from perfect. We see this in his care for Nanako. He’s so impatient to get into the TV World to save her that he doesn’t think about how. He loses that level-headness he was able to keep for the anime. Not only that, but he was given a fear, and a pretty huge one: not having anyone in his life. It’s safe to assume that Narukami didn’t have any real friends before moving to Inaba, and who even knows about his parents. He suddenly gains these friends over the course of one year, but this fear sticks out twice. It shows when they fight Mitsuo Kubo, and Narukami becomes afraid that everyone will in the group will break apart because there is no case. It shows again in the last episode, the true ending. Narukami gets himself stuck in a timeloop of his last day leaving because he doesn’t want to leave Inaba where his friends are. Look at what this causes. This takes away from that “perfect character”, now doesn’t it?

some interactions in the game felt forced

I can agree to this to some extent, especially with the romance routes, but I don’t see a reason to hate Narukami for this. More of a reason to blame the writing, really.

Defense for Yu Narukami/Souji Seta (Persona 4)

OKAY LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING BEFORE WE BEGIN. I can tolerate Kanji getting hate, or Naoto getting hate— hell, I can even tolerate Yosuke getting hate, and he’s my favorite character in the entire franchise! But if you hate on Yu, ESPECIALLY for some of the dumbest reasons known to man, THAT’S when I’m going to get annoyed.

SO GUESS WHAT, EVERYONE.

Gonna put this under a read more because it’s going to be pretty long.

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